Comments for New Voices http://blog.newvoices.org Just another WordPress weblog Tue, 15 May 2012 14:01:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Sci-Fi & the Jews; Mother’s Day; the Internet; and more. [Required Reading] by Funny And Jewish http://blog.newvoices.org/2012/05/14/sci-fi-mothers-day-the-internet-and-more-required-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-74928 Funny And Jewish Tue, 15 May 2012 14:01:15 +0000 http://blog.newvoices.org/?p=12471#comment-74928 I think the image of actor Mandy Patinkin saying "Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. I want peace for Israel, prepare to die" is simply hilarious.. I think the image of actor Mandy Patinkin saying “Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. I want peace for Israel, prepare to die” is simply hilarious..

]]> Comment on Frank v. Kristol: Two smart Jews debate the election by Donna Erbs http://blog.newvoices.org/2012/05/07/frank-v-kristol-two-smart-jews-debate-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-73194 Donna Erbs Tue, 08 May 2012 04:43:17 +0000 http://blog.newvoices.org/?p=12408#comment-73194 Well, he'll, ya gotta give Kristol points for trying. Unenviable. Well, he’ll, ya gotta give Kristol points for trying. Unenviable.

]]> Comment on Civil marriage the path to better conversion policy in Israel? by Rabbi Andrew Sacks http://blog.newvoices.org/2012/05/04/civil-marriage-the-path-to-better-conversion-policy-in-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-73148 Rabbi Andrew Sacks Mon, 07 May 2012 22:06:54 +0000 http://blog.newvoices.org/?p=12373#comment-73148 Rabbi Rosen is on to something here. But there is far too much money involved in marriages for the Rabbanut to give it up to those who want an alternative. And without external pressure (Diaspora Jewry) the situation is not likely to change soon. That said, Leiberman promised his voters civil marriage. He delivered on a joke of a civil marriage bill that may serve as many as 20 couples/yr. If the voting constituency from the FSU, which generally votes their security interests rather than social interests, insists on civil marriage, it may happen if the Haredi do not carry the coalition power next time around that they usually have. There have been Haredi MKs who accept civil marriage. Why? They feel that such a union, if dissolved, would not require a Get. Thus Mamzerut would not be a concern. They would still, most certainly, keep the marriage registration process withing the Rabbanut so as not to lose the bucks. Rabbi Rosen is on to something here. But there is far too much money involved in marriages for the Rabbanut to give it up to those who want an alternative. And without external pressure (Diaspora Jewry) the situation is not likely to change soon. That said, Leiberman promised his voters civil marriage. He delivered on a joke of a civil marriage bill that may serve as many as 20 couples/yr.
If the voting constituency from the FSU, which generally votes their security interests rather than social interests, insists on civil marriage, it may happen if the Haredi do not carry the coalition power next time around that they usually have.

There have been Haredi MKs who accept civil marriage. Why? They feel that such a union, if dissolved, would not require a Get. Thus Mamzerut would not be a concern. They would still, most certainly, keep the marriage registration process withing the Rabbanut so as not to lose the bucks.

]]> Comment on ZOA’s personal attack on New Voices editor by David Z http://blog.newvoices.org/2012/05/02/zoas-unwarranted-personal-attack-on-new-voices-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-73137 David Z Mon, 07 May 2012 21:01:46 +0000 http://blog.newvoices.org/?p=12341#comment-73137 While you are anything but amateur (not only do you make a living writing, but you are an excellent writer), separating Israel from Judaism is no easy feat. I happen not be the classic religious Zionist - that is I do not believe that the State has inherent holiness or that it is necessarily a tool or harbinger of the coming of Messiah. However, there are plenty of Jews who do. And they are more likely than me to be in those pro-Israel protest groups. Moreover, even I believe firmly that Israel (its modern borders and more) is Jewish. While you are anything but amateur (not only do you make a living writing, but you are an excellent writer), separating Israel from Judaism is no easy feat. I happen not be the classic religious Zionist – that is I do not believe that the State has inherent holiness or that it is necessarily a tool or harbinger of the coming of Messiah. However, there are plenty of Jews who do. And they are more likely than me to be in those pro-Israel protest groups. Moreover, even I believe firmly that Israel (its modern borders and more) is Jewish.

]]> Comment on Hazing, Why? [Campus] by David Z http://blog.newvoices.org/2012/05/01/hazing-why-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-73126 David Z Mon, 07 May 2012 19:29:20 +0000 http://blog.newvoices.org/?p=12326#comment-73126 What power do they have exactly? What power do they have exactly?

]]> Comment on ZOA’s personal attack on New Voices editor by Rabbi Steven Folberg http://blog.newvoices.org/2012/05/02/zoas-unwarranted-personal-attack-on-new-voices-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-72391 Rabbi Steven Folberg Fri, 04 May 2012 17:20:21 +0000 http://blog.newvoices.org/?p=12341#comment-72391 "Gut gezogt," David! “Gut gezogt,” David!

]]> Comment on ZOA’s personal attack on New Voices editor by RES http://blog.newvoices.org/2012/05/02/zoas-unwarranted-personal-attack-on-new-voices-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-72182 RES Thu, 03 May 2012 22:50:06 +0000 http://blog.newvoices.org/?p=12341#comment-72182 Baller. Baller.

]]> Comment on Hazing, Why? [Campus] by Linn http://blog.newvoices.org/2012/05/01/hazing-why-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-71740 Linn Wed, 02 May 2012 15:06:08 +0000 http://blog.newvoices.org/?p=12326#comment-71740 AEPi is famous for doing bad things to pledges. Some think they deserve a pass on despicable behavior. Alcohol is not an excuse. To harm and torture another human being is disgusting. AEPi is famous for doing bad things to pledges. Some think they deserve a pass on despicable behavior. Alcohol is not an excuse. To harm and torture another human being is disgusting.

]]> Comment on How Urban Outfitters is, and is not, like the Sex Pistols [Sensitivity] by Andrea http://blog.newvoices.org/2012/04/26/how-urban-outfitters-is-and-is-not-like-the-sex-pistols-sensitivity/comment-page-1/#comment-71666 Andrea Wed, 02 May 2012 10:00:02 +0000 http://blog.newvoices.org/?p=12225#comment-71666 WOOD WOOD is a Danish street-fashion design company. WOOD WOOD is a Danish street-fashion design company.

]]> Comment on Silent Face-Palms Do No Good [Israel] by Biff http://blog.newvoices.org/2012/04/30/silent-face-palms-do-no-good-global-jewish-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-71429 Biff Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:03:36 +0000 http://blog.newvoices.org/?p=12272#comment-71429 From observing a class (yes just one class) I feel the biggest threat is the lack of student knowledge about the issues and their unsophisticated ability to parse the "facts' presented in class. The teachers are able to “slide” false facts into discussions and assignments by bundling them with plausible sounding comments. I found that obvious anti-Semetic comments by students were minimized by the teacher so as to appear unbiased. There needs to be a concerted effort by Jewish organizations to be pro-active and not just reactionary. When you are reactionary, you allow others to control the discourse and you legitimize their comments by replying. It’s impossible to prove a negative. Their needs to be a concerted effort to promote Israel and its positive actions plus make certain the west understands that Israel is the only democracy in the region that allows Arab, Jews and Christians to govern together. From observing a class (yes just one class) I feel the biggest threat is the lack of student knowledge about the issues and their unsophisticated ability to parse the “facts’ presented in class.

The teachers are able to “slide” false facts into discussions and assignments by bundling them with plausible sounding comments.
I found that obvious anti-Semetic comments by students were minimized by the teacher so as to appear unbiased.
There needs to be a concerted effort by Jewish organizations to be pro-active and not just reactionary. When you are reactionary, you allow others to control the discourse and you legitimize their comments by replying. It’s impossible to prove a negative.
Their needs to be a concerted effort to promote Israel and its positive actions plus make certain the west understands that Israel is the only democracy in the region that allows Arab, Jews and Christians to govern together.

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